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Last post 04-19-2008 6:19 PM by lazy-daze-paint. 9 replies.
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  • 06-03-2006 8:03 PM

    Loping

    I am having problems with my gelding's leads when loping. I can get him into the left lead no problem but 99% of the time he will not go into the right lead when i am riding or lungeing him. When i am lungeing him he will go into the right lead occasionaly but only for a few strides then he will do a flying lead change to get back into the left lead. Does any one have any suggestions to get him to stay in the right lead?
  • 06-03-2006 9:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    For my mare, ground poles helped, lined up along the round pen going in a counter clockwise direction.
    Jess and..
    Gypsy, 2001 Tobiano Mare
    Angel, 2005 Buckskin Filly

  • 06-04-2006 2:17 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    It is my experience that the difficulty of a horse to pick up one lead or the other is a symptom of something else, and is not the problem itself. Usually, it is because a horse is very stiff and heavy on one side, and is not supple/comfortable enough to transfer weight to the other side.

    Lots of lateral suppling exercizes to get him more balanced on both sides will help. I would work on getting him to flex to both sides, and disengage the hind end and step over.

    One of the best things I do with my horse to get him to shift his weight over is doing turns on the haunches (even quarter turns) AWAY from his stiff side, as it forces him to get the weight off that shoulder. I like to do a lot of "squares", where I will walk and halt, and do a quarter turn to get make the turn - so a quarter turn, walk a long side, quarter turn, long side..etc. Once we can do it at a halt, I do it at a walk, and then at a trot. And, I make SURE that the first step from that halt is towards that stiff side.

    So, for example, my horse is stiff on his right side (so he would more readily pick up that lead), so if I was tracking right around the square, I want him to take a step to the left, or at least feel him shift his weight to the left, inorder to turn right. I will reverse sides, but I make my horse shift his weight off the stiff side to turn. I will even do a circle, but I am DILIGENT about making sure that when he takes that first step, he does so by shifting his weight to the left side. And, I make sure I keep his right/stiff jaw supple and I constantly communicate with it - much like I would work a rusty hinge. By communication, I mean gentle squeezes (opening and closing my fingers) on the reins. Once they will shift weight to the other side, then it frees up their shoulder TO be about to pick up the other lead. A horse that is well balanced and supple on both sides will generally pick up the correct lead, because it is easier in a particular direction.

    Horses that are really stiff on one side often also feel like they are dropping their shoulder and careening around a turn on one leg - because all of their weight is on that shoulder around a turn. You can't fix that problem when you are half-way through with the turn, because all of their weight is already there, but you have to make sure their weight is shifted to the outside before you turn. Same thing with leads... a horse WONT pick up a lead if all of his weight is locked down on one side.

    Other good exercizes for getting them to free up their shoulders and become more balanced are correct leg-yeilds (so neither leading in the shoudlers or the haunches) and shoulders-in exercizes. You should be able to use your legs and your seat to get your horse to shift his weight to either leg, or his hind end. Once you can get him to do that, and he is balanced, then the leads are easy.

    The other thing I want to add is that if he is consistantly NOT picking up a lead, even on the lunge, regardless of the diameter of the circle, you may want to have his hocks checked out. There are some conditions within the joints in the hocks, like arthritis or spavin, that may make it more uncomfortable for the horse to push more with that leg, and therefore they would be more resistant to picking up that lead.
  • 06-04-2006 1:11 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    Thanks i will try these suggestions and hopefully we can see some progress.
  • 02-21-2008 10:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping

     Hi I have a horse that has the same problem. Did this work for your horse?

  • 02-21-2008 1:15 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    Ohdinn's Mom is right on. Can't really add much to it, except another option may be to try a chiropractor. I've had a lot of success using chiro (and to a lesser extent massage) on horses that were one-sided or very stiff.  It's just one more tool to have at your disposal.

    Good luck!

  • 02-23-2008 8:27 AM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    My son's horse has the same problem.  Left leads, no problem, right leads, nope.  We came to the conclusion (after consulting the vet) that she has a touch of arthritis in her right shoulder and loping a right lead in the indoor arena was to painful.  After starting on joint suppliments and getting her back into shape (the fat old thing lost at least a hundred #'s), she was able to do the right lead much easier.  We also dicedied to NOT work her on the right lead for very long in the indoor.  After the wether broke and we moved to the outside arena's, that were much bigger, she had no problems taking that right lead. 

  • 02-23-2008 10:25 AM In reply to

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    OM is spot on with that training regimen. The only thing I can add is check all the hocks and joints for excessive heat after a workout. That may zero in on a problem area. One of those new laser/infared digital thermometers you just point at the skin is a handy tool to have for that. It's not extremely accurate because it has a layer of hair to bounce off. But it's a bit more reliable to identify subtle differences than a pair of calloused hands like mine. ~FH


    "Abuse is when a human action or reaction is obviously accompanied by anger, rage or adrenaline. Proper correction and reprimand are done in silence with thoughtful intent. Your horse knows the difference." ~FloridaHorseman
  • 04-09-2008 7:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Loping

    I totally agree w/ the chiro/massage suggestions.  My mare was similar-- and would cross fire when she picked up the other lead in front, she couldn't pick it up in the hind.  You have to do your research and find the right practioner, but it made a complete turnaround in her.  Without describing what she was doing, the man was able to feel around her body and tell me things (like her pelvis & sacrum were out in opposite directions, which made it painful for her to pick up the lead)-- without me having told him what "symptoms" she was exhibiting.   He worked on her for a few hours--

     The next morning, I worked her very lightly-- but she freely picked up each lead first try and every try after that.  That made me a total believer.

  • 04-19-2008 6:19 PM In reply to

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    Just thought I'd let you know that my chiropracter said that most lead problems are due to a hip being 'out', or sometimes a shoulder. If it's not that then they just need to do more benging exercises.Smile 


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