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Last post 11-15-2007 4:49 PM by Squeaksmom. 7 replies.
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  • 11-14-2007 6:04 PM

    frustrated

    Okay, I know Squeaker's the type of horse who needs consistant work, but this is getting kind of ridiculous! She had about a month off because I hit a deer with my car and messed up my neck. Before the time off we were walking and trotting simple figures under saddle. I finally got the okay from doc and physio to go to the farm, so I thought I'd longe her to see how she was feeling and then maybe have a short ride.

    Well, she's back to shoving me around and only listening when it suits her! She's a real dominant type, but we've been having the same conversation for five years now and it's getting a bit old. Pain has been ruled out over and over, as far as anyone can tell she just likes being in charge and is aware that she weighs almost 10x what I do.

    So today she decided she didn't feel like longeing. One circle at a lovely swinging trot, and then she tore the line out of my hand and went for a run. When I bent down and tried to pick it up she swung her hind end at me hard, and got cracked across the rump with the longe whip for her trouble. I wound up "longeing" her at a walk with about two feet of line so she couldn't break away, but she kept trying and I was pretty dizzy by the time she decided to submit Tongue Tied. I have a feeling we may be doing this for a while.....

    So do you guys think I'm on the right track, or is there an easier way I could be going about this??
  • 11-14-2007 8:32 PM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    I think you need to get the Squeaker into a round pen and have a "discussion" with her. She's had a layoff at least as long as yours, probably been overfed for the amount of exercise she got (none) and you got into a situation with a fresh, under-worked, over-energized and DISRESPECTFUL horse that saw an avenue of escape from work and took it. If that happens again and again, she's learning to ignore and overpower you whenever she wants. There HAS to be consequences for her behavior and that doesn't mean being chased around the pasture making you look silly and ineffective. Trying to work through this out in the open on ANY length of cotton line isn't the way.

    She needs to be confined (round pen) and forced to deal with you ( get respectful) where she can't flee. Free-longe at a canter for at least 15 minutes. She WILL buck and snort and kick but keep after her with a longe whip smacking the ground behind her until she realizes you're not taking any guff. When she's good and tired, switch to the longe (WEAR GLOVES!) and start again. Get her going at a canter again for a few circles and then "WHOA!", followed by a very strong pull on the line to pull her completely around to stop and face you. Get SOLID eye contact! No happy face! Stand there for a minute to let her think about it and then suddenly start her again the other way. Do that about a half dozen times before you quit. Several days of this and then move outside the round pen (still get the freshness off IN the pen first). Start her at a canter on the longe and after a HALF circle, "WHOA!" and pull her around. Do about another half dozen of those and quit. If she acts out again at any time outside the pen, go back in for some SERIOUS work as her reprimand. Any time you see her starting to get a little too energetic on the longe, "WHOA!", stand and start again. If you don't have a round pen or a SMALL paddock to work in, you need to get one or borrow one or you'll be chasing Squeak AND this problem all winter. ~FH

     


    "Abuse is when a human action or reaction is obviously accompanied by anger, rage or adrenaline. Proper correction and reprimand are done in silence with thoughtful intent. Your horse knows the difference." ~FloridaHorseman
  • 11-15-2007 4:33 AM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    FH said it very well, of course!  This is about making her respect you, and SHE needs to be doing the hard work of running around, not you... she'll come to understand that that 10X bigger don't mean squat, b/c you have the superior brain (thank you, Star Trek!  lol).Wink

    I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confines themselves to facts. - Mark Twain

    The fact that man knows right from wrong proves his intellectual superiority to other creatures; but the fact that he can do wrong proves his moral inferiority to any creature that cannot. - Mark Twain
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  • 11-15-2007 4:44 AM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    Hear! Hear! FH, I couldn't have said it better myself! I don't think I could have gotten a handle on any of my horses without my roundpen!

  • 11-15-2007 12:29 PM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    Well it's warm enough out there that the footing should have thawed (it was rutted and icy yesterday) so hopefully back out to the roundpen we go.  The thing that really gets to me is that as long as she's being worked at least 4x/week she's an angel, but any layoff and it's back to square one.

    *sigh*.... we'll get there... now where's my whip......

    I'll keep you all posted.

  • 11-15-2007 1:28 PM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    What are you feeding? Is it possible that it may creating a little extra energy when not needed?

  • 11-15-2007 2:57 PM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

     I agree with the others and the need for the roundpen work - from the ground up as they say.

    A dominant hrose will need a very dominant rider. Are you that kind of rider or can you become one? 

    MorganRider
  • 11-15-2007 4:49 PM In reply to

    Re: frustrated

    The feeding program is and has been free-choice grass hay.

    As far as needing a dominant rider, I'm much more assertive in the saddle than on the ground -- many people have commented on it over the years.  Perhaps that's because the accident that should have killed me happened while I was leading a horse at a slow walk, or perhaps it's just me... who knows.

    I did feel like we made a little bit of progress today, so I'll take that and move forward.


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