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BLM Mustang Adoption - future adoptions

Last post 05-02-2008 10:57 AM by bugfinder. 13 replies.
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  • 01-30-2008 6:16 AM

    BLM Mustang Adoption - future adoptions

    I have been approoved for BLM's Internet Adoption!! I'm looking to adopt during the May Internet Adoption. Has anyone here adopted from BLM or knows someone who has? What was pick up like? What should I expect? I have dealt with human-shy and unhandled horses before and some BLM adopted horses, but never a BLM horse straight fro ma facility. I pan on adopting a colt or filly under 18 months of age. I'm looking for conformationally sound animals with decent bone and some refinement. The horse will be a pleasure show and trail horse for my boyfriend and I. I currently own a 5 y/o pinto gelding whom I've trained myself. Just asking for advise and support. Thanks.

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  • 01-30-2008 7:20 AM In reply to

    Re: BLM Mustang Adoption - future adoptions

    You will need to take a trailer with no partitions - preferably a stock trailer, preferably a four horse with a center gate. You will need a stout halter that can be adjusted - buckles on the chin and both sides of the headstall would be best. If you know someone who can braid a leadrope onto the halter, that would be excellent - will eliminate the possibility of a snap breaking. Practice backing up your trailer to a narrow (4' wide) opening. The horses will be run into a chute and haltered, and then into the trailer. Be very very sure that you take an approved trailer, because the BLM will not let you take a horse otherwise.

    At home, you should have a stout corral - wood post and rail or wood post and woven wire with a top pole - that you can back your trailer up to the gate to unload your horse. Do not expect to actually hold the leadrope the first day. Plan on all your horse moving to be done by hazing, not leading. If you are planning to put the horse in a stall (not recommended, IMO) make sure you can back the trailer up to the barn door and be able to run the horse into the stall. The stall walls should go up at least nine feet - solid walls at least to 4 -5 feet, and wire mesh is okay above that. Please please please don't try to put the horse in a "good-enough" stall or corral - these mustangs are strong, and usually stressed and frightened on the first day or two after adoption. If you have the horse in a stall, you need to be able to feed and water without going into the stall. If you have to step into the stall, make sure you have another person there to guard the door and to keep you safe.

    I know it sounds from reading this that you are going to be bringing home a fire-breathing monster, but it is so much better to over-do on preparations and expectations and then be able to adjust to a sweet, mellow tempered horse than to expect a little flightiness and have the horse go through the fence, out the gate, or over the top of you.

    I would also highly recommend that you put a well-broke, people friendly horse next to them so that they can see how rewarding a horse-people relationship can be. Once the horses are aquainted, putting them together is even better, because pretty soon the mustang will start competing for your affections. 

    I used to live in Wyoming and I adopted three mustangs through the years from the holding facility in Rock Springs. They all turned into excellent horses, and it was a great experience. But the key is to always remember that they started out WILD, and the language they will understand best is horse language (body posture, etc) and the best way to get them to do something is to ASK them, let them think it over, and then ask them again. More often than not, they will do what you want if you don't force them into it.

    Good luck, and when the horses up for adoption are on the website, let us know which ones you are considering!

    Noel
  • 01-30-2008 8:16 AM In reply to

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    Thank you sooooo much for the advise. I plan on keeping the horse in a 35' x 50' grass paddock with a 12' x 24' shelter. There are neighboring pastures with horses kept on pasture 24/7, so the horse would never feel completely alone and after a few days I will be moving my pinto gelding in with the mustang. My Danny is a people lover and is very fair to younger horses (I plan to adopt a horse under 18months). Danny is still young enough to enjoy playing with a young horse (as I know the babies love to do, I've had Danny since he was 18months). I'm hoping to borrow a friend's 4 horse stock trailer, or I'll have to hire a trailer.

     Thanks again
    Amanda

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  • 01-31-2008 12:01 AM In reply to

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    That's cool! I've never done that, so can't help, but the things I DID think about, previous poster said ;)

    But, I'd love to look at the website you get to choose from! Especially when you find some you are considering... how fun! Do keep us updated! :)

    Jessi

    www.CheyAutRanch.com


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  • 01-31-2008 6:42 AM In reply to

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    Hi,

      A friend of mine adopted one from the BLM and they have strict requirements.They have that information on the site  - I suggest contacting for more detailed info to be sure are are no surprises when you go pick up your horse. Another friend of mine adopted a mustang from a local farm that adopts from the BLM & works with them and places then in new homes - they are both awesomely wonderful  little horses - Good luck to you =;->

    https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/howtoadopt.php

  • 01-31-2008 10:19 AM In reply to

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    I was looking at the horses currently in holding facilities that are avaliable for adoption. Here are my top 5 picks... (all are under 18 months, if I buy a stud colt I will most likely geld it, unless it is exceptional) they are in no particular order

    1. https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=1824 - beautiful color, halter broke
    2. https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=1786 - great conformation, kind eye
    3. https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=1767 - sweet face, flashy markings
    4. https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=1776 - put together great, kind eye
    5. https://www.blm.gov/adoptahorse/horse.php?horse_id=1068 - adorable, kind eye, younger than others (weanling)
     
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  • 01-31-2008 4:34 PM In reply to

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    I like the Grulla, beautiful color and he is halter broke. I'd definitiely geld him, there are enough horses looking for homes, no need to add to that.

  • 02-01-2008 8:02 AM In reply to

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    I like the first and second one -- sturdy little horses.  I love mustangs, but they rarely get tall enough for me!  Please geld them, we certainly don't need any more mustangs on the market. 



    Solaris -- 16 hh Appendix Quarter Horse = MY DREAM COME TRUE!
  • 02-02-2008 1:12 PM In reply to

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    The links didn't work for me :(

    Jessi

    www.CheyAutRanch.com


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  • 02-04-2008 1:15 PM In reply to

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    Good for you!!! I have adopted 7 mustangs. the last 2 from internet adoptions. They turn out to be wonderful horses. The BLM has very strict rules you MUST follow when you bring your mustang home, but it is for your and their protection. My first mustang was a 9 year old mare. She was the easiest to gentle. She had survived a 5 year drought and just wanted a friend. She had a stillborn foal 3 weeks after I got her. My last mustang was an 8 month old filly who was the wildest one I ever had! It was 3 weeks before I could touch her. I feel that was because I got her in December and spending a lot of time with her daily didn't happened because I live in Iowa. When I first bring them home, I will spend at least 3 hours a day with them. Just talking and hanging out. My goal is never how fast I can get them gentled. Each horse is different. You must aways be careful not to scare them at first, because they are terrified. And you can get hurt if you move too fast with them. Patience is the best thing to have. Once you can touch them, they seem to progress really fast. It is the most satisfying feeling. One thing I would advise, keep your other horses far away. My filly ended up with Strangles, even though she had been vaccinated. She came out of it fine but there is a long window when other horses can catch it. At the very tail end of that window, I let my other horses in the pen next to hers. My 4 year old 1/2 mustang got strangles then and we ended up putting her down. The vet called it a '*** strangles.' If I would have keep them seperated just a bit longer.... it was my first experience with strangles EVER and quite a learning experience at that. good luck with your mustang.
  • 02-04-2008 5:45 PM In reply to

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     I have a 23 year old mustang mare from Rock Springs that I adopted at Denver's Stockyards in 1985.

     I was a novice when I got her.

     But one piece of advice I was given was to attach a long cotton rope to her halter and keep the halter on her.  I did this until she learned to trust me.  But I was able to catch her quite easily and I always had treats for her.  It took her just a short while to figure out treats! 

    I've heard of peole who took the halters off their mustangs and were never able to catch them.  I also knew a guy who did not have adequate fencing and saw both his newly adopted mustangs tear right through it.  He never did catch them.  One did end up at a house about 10 miles from his place.  The other was sighted even further away.

     My mare was a yearling when I got her.  I swear she thought she died and went to heaven when she came to her new home.  We always called her the big dog with hooves.

     Candace

  • 02-08-2008 12:00 PM In reply to

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    Greetings Dannyboy!     I've gone through your 'possibles' and to me they are all possibles.   How will you decide which will have the chance of a lifetime?   I think Number 5 on your list looks a cheeky little fellow; full of fun and mischief!

    Very best of luck with your mission and do keep a detailed diary of events - including of course problems, solutions; fears, tears, joy; highs and lows.    

    Looking forward to more news. 

  • 02-10-2008 8:20 AM In reply to

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    Wow, congratulations!  You've made a great decision in getting a mustang.

    I adopted a yearling filly last year and it has been a wonderful experience.  This is my second mustang and I truly believe I will never buy another domesticated horse again.  Mustangs just have so much heart and so much try in them, as long as you don't abuse thier trust...you'll see.  Here are my suggestions:

    1.  Good choice buying a yearling.  Much easier to handle and gentle, especially if you have not started many horses.  Also a word of warning, if you have never started a horse before, a mustang is not a good one to start with.  You need some experience in training horses to work successfully with these animals.  Even then, it can be a challenge.

    2. I don't know what method you were going to do for the adoption, but I do not recommend the local auctions the BLM holds...they have a very limited selection.  Much better to go to your local BLM facility if you can and pick out one at your leisure.  You won't end up in a bidding war that way either.  I got a really nice filly, but I paid almost $600 for her because my husband got in a bidding war with someone else over her.  I also don't recommend the internet auctions because you can't observe the animal before you buy.  Definately observe the animal first.  Try not to get the shyest horse, nor the most dominant, but one that falls in between, that seems interested in humans, but gets along with the other horses in the pen well.

    3.  The person who said don't put them in a stall at first is 1000% CORRECT.  They will tell you for a yearling that 5 ft high fencing is ok, DON"T BELIEVE IT.  My filly tried to scale my 5 ft fencing, ended up cutting her chest and then in a panic reared up in her large covered stall and gashed open her nose on the roofing panels.  I recommend putting them in at least a 6ft tall round pen and leaving them there for a few days during the initial adjustment and handling period. 

    4.  I disagree about leaving the lead rope and halter on.  It provides an opportunity for the horse to injure itself.  It also creates mistrust with the animal.  If you use natural techniques in smaller area, you won't need it anyway.  I much prefer to have them in a round pen with no cover for the first few days.  if you only have a larger area, you will have to leave it on at first.  Don't worry about the animal settling in past the first day.  Spend as much time with the horse as you can in those critical first days - practically live with the horse.  It will develop a strong bond that will serve you well when you start the training process.

    5. First order of business is touching the animal.  If possible, just hang out in the pen with them and let them come to you.  Pet them all over (go slowly if they resist your touch) and find all the spots they love to have scratched.  Once you can touch and pet them all over, then bring out the grooming tools and do the same all over.  Always show the tools to the horse and let them sniff them before using them on the animal.  Once you have this accomplished, it is pretty easy to slide a rope all over them, which is your next step.  Once they are used to the rope, you can then use the rope to start leading them around, getting them used to having thier feet picked up (use rope loosely around leg to lift leg at first), or make a makeshift halter.  I use a thin lead rope for this, also called a catch rope. It is the lead rope with a loop at one end that they sell for baby horses.  Once they tolerate my makeshift halter, I start using a regular full size lead, and then move on to a regular rope halter. 

    6.  Insist on respect from the animal right from the start.  Set your ground rules firmly and stick to them.  Don't let the animal invade your space, try to bite you (they will!) or do anything disrespectful.  You don't need a harsh reprimand, I use an abrupt "shhhh" sound and it works really well.  This is an animal that has the potential to become very dangerous if not taught the rules early.  I was never harsh with my filly, but I would use the "shhhh" sound when she would try to bite, and I would move into her abruptly if she tried to invade my space.  I call my filly my velcro horse, because she follows me wherever I go...but it easily could have turned into her trying to knock me over, or bite at my clothes, if I had not set the rules early on. Don't be harsh, just be firm.

    7.  Get the horse moving on the ground for you right away.  The first thing I taught my filly was to respond to the pressure points that you would normally hit with your leg to make them move under saddle, but i did it with my hands on the ground.  That way I could get her to pivot on her front or back end, or move away from me at will.  It also helped train the animal to respect my space.

    8.  I highly recommend employing natural horsemanship techniques with your mustang.  But always keep an open mind in your training - do what works for the horse.  I had started horses using Clinton Anderson's techniques before, but I had to radically change the approach I used with my mustang.  The thing to remember about a mustang is to NEVER abuse the trust with the animal.  I cannot stress this enough.  A mustang that you take your time with will give back to you 1000%, but one that you have pushed into a panic, or abused the trust with, can be a very dangerous animal.  One thing I found is that you have to break down everything you teach into the tiniest steps.  Domestic horses learn things pretty easily and it makes us a little lazy in our training.  Mustangs have no clue why we want to lead them around, hang things all over them, or what the heck lungeing is. 

    I won't go over what the BLM requires, because people have done a great job of giving you that information in other posts.   

    Well, that's my advice...I hope it helps.

    A couple other pointers...

    Mustangs have naturally great feet.  Please don't shoe them.  Horse boots can be used for really rough riding over rocks and such, but otherwise, your mustang's feet are naturally built to be tough.

    Spend as much time training on the ground as possible.  Don't ride the horse until it is three and fully developed.  The time you spent on the ground will really pay off once you do have them under saddle.

    Support Mustang conservation.  Get involved and learn about mustangs in the wild.  Although I support the BLM adoption process, and in fact, I am a BLM volunteer, I also do not believe they do an adequate job in managing the wild herds of mustangs.  All too often too many are taken off the range in favor of cattle being able to graze the land instead...often reducing the gene pool of the wild herd to a dangerously low level.  They use anti-conception drugs that often make the mares and fillies permanently unable to concieve.  Mustangs are a part of our natural history, and to not protect them in my opinion, is the same as burning an American flag.  Never the less, I support the adoption program, because I fear, that the mustang will soon fade into history, and I would rather see them preserved in private collections, than nowhere at all. 

    To the person who said to geld your horse because we don't need any mustangs breeding...shame on you.  I do recommend gelding, only because a wild stud can only be gentled by an extremely experienced handler. If we don't start raising mustangs in private collections, I fear we will soon not have them at all. 

    Good luck to you.

    dmmalpert@hotmail.com 

     

  • 05-02-2008 10:57 AM In reply to

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    I adopted 2 mustangs in Belton TX.  My filly was about 1 year old at the time of adoption and was at her 3rd adoption, so I got her for the tremendous adoption fee of $15.  I also adopted a blue roan stud colt, who was about 5 to 6 months old (he still had a broom tail).  His adoption fee was $125.  When I had him gelded, BLM refunded me $50 when I sent in the veterinary documentation for gelding.  

     My husband and I have done some ground work with both, but we are strapped for time.  I have hired a trainer in Oklahoma and will be moving both mustangs to her in June.

    My first horse was sold as a registered Appaloosa, but she was actually a mustang.  I absolutely loved that horse.  She was great for me as a beginner rider and she was a great Momma.  She always checked where she was going when she was crossing unfamiliar ground and would proceed only when she was sure that she was safe.  She was great with my dogs and with other horses.  Unfortunately, she was injured during a move and I had to have her put down.

    Be careful when adopting--especially if you are an avid horse lover!!  You will want to bring all of them home.

    Good luck.


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