I liked your response. I'd forgotten about figure 8 nosebands, or dropped nosebands..... One needs to know their horse, and also their own abilities. If one does not have soft or giving hands, then they may find themselves creating a horse with a very tough mouth that will eventually "run through" whatever is used. When I got my horse they were using a rubber snaffle used for training foals, and that for a time they'd used a hackamore on him. The young girl only trail rode him,

I tried the slow twist after I discovered that my Appendix QH sometimes liked to take the ride into "his own hands". He is not a strong horse, nor is he crazy in the sense of the word. Almost all of the time, he will come to a walk, or even a halt with just word or my seat. But I discovered that sometime he gets full of himself and likes to take advantage of the wide open grassy spaces, or if a jumping course is incredibly fun for him, he'll start putting on the steam and getting "strong"

Interesting to see how riders/trainers/etc. are so passionate about this. I was told that the slow twist is just one step up from a regular snaffle, and after purchasing it, and feeling it, and using it I don't believe it is the harsh bit that others are referring to. I don't profess to be an expert on bits or even riding, I just know that it was that little added extra that would assist me as a rider to "remind" my mount that I was still there and calling the shots. I've always